Moon Signs

Leo Sun Leo Moon: A New Moon Birth

Leo Sun aims to be fully and visibly yourself, without apologising for it; Leo Moon needs to be noticed and taken seriously, especially when low. The two signs are the same sign, which is what decides whether those two agree, and it also tells you the lunar phase you were born under.

Chart wheel showing the Sun in Leo and the Moon in Leo, a new moon birth, with the Sun and Moon together
Leo Sun, Leo Moon: a new moon birth, with the Sun and Moon together.
The short answerLeo Sun with Leo Moon means you are aiming to be fully and visibly yourself, without apologising for it, while needing to be noticed and taken seriously, especially when low. The two signs are the same sign, a new moon birth, with the Sun and Moon together, so the aim and the need work with each other. It also means you were born at or near a new moon.

Leo Sun: what you are trying to become

The Sun is the aim. Not what you are like, which is a different question, but what you are consciously oriented toward and what you would be proud of being. With the Sun in Leo that is to be fully and visibly yourself, without apologising for it.

What Leo quietly takes pride in is warmth. At its best this placement becomes somebody who gives other people permission to take up room. Leo is Fire and Fixed, ruled by the Sun, and the recognised weak spot is that it needs the room to notice.

Leo Moon: what you need

The Moon is the private half, and it is usually the placement people recognise most sharply once it is described. It covers what you need in order to feel alright and what you do before you have thought about it. With the Moon in Leo you need to be noticed and taken seriously, especially when low.

What settles you: warmth, attention, being told plainly that you matter. And the giveaway, the thing people close to you would recognise: goes dramatic or goes silent, and both mean the same thing. Leo is Fire and Fixed, ruled by the Sun.

What happens when you put the two together

Leo and Leo are the same sign, which is a new moon birth, with the Sun and Moon together. What you are aiming at and what you need are the same thing, which makes you unusually undivided and gives you nothing to balance against. People with this tend to be recognisably their sign in a way that almost nobody else is.

Both are Fire signs, so even where the two differ they are made of the same material, which tends to make a person feel coherent from the inside even when they are not behaving consistently.

Leo Sun and Leo Moon side by side
Leo SunLeo Moon
What it coversWhat you are aiming atWhat you need privately
Element and modeFire, FixedFire, Fixed
Ruled bythe Sunthe Sun
In one lineTo be fully and visibly yourself, without apologising for itTo be noticed and taken seriously, especially when low
Who sees itYou, and anybody who asks what you wantPeople who live with you

The practical version

Because the two agree, you are more consistent than most people: what you chase and what restores you point the same way, so you recover from effort rather than being drained by it. The cost is that nothing in you argues, and a person with no internal argument can go a long way in a direction nobody checked.

The useful move is not to pick a side. It is to notice which one you default to when you are tired, because that is almost always the Moon, and to notice what you have been postponing, because that is almost always the Sun.

The phase you were born under

There is a second thing these two placements tell you, and almost nobody mentions it. The distance from the Sun to the Moon, counted forwards, is the lunar phase you were born under. Leo is the same sign as Leo, which puts you in the new moon band.

That is a band rather than a verdict: the exact phase needs the degrees, not just the signs, so somebody at the edge of a sign could land either side of it. What a new moon birth is read as is here, along with the arithmetic to check your own properly.

What this page is missing

Your rising sign, which is what people meet first and which needs a birth time. On any given day, twelve different people share this Sun and Moon and have twelve different rising signs, and they do not come across remotely alike.

If you do not know your birth time, this covers how to find it, including which record to ask your state for. And the Big Three together are covered here.

Two placements out of about fortyThe Sun and Moon are the two biggest things in a chart and they are still two things. The rising sign, which needs a birth time, is what people meet first and is missing from everything on this page. So is every house, every aspect to anything else, and the whole of Mercury through Pluto. A Sun and Moon reading is a sketch, and a sketch that fits is not evidence of anything beyond the sketch being well drawn.

The Sun in Leo in full and the Moon in Leo in full.

Questions people ask

What does Leo Sun Leo Moon mean?

You aim to be fully and visibly yourself, without apologising for it while needing to be noticed and taken seriously, especially when low. The two signs are the same sign, so those work with each other.

Is Leo Sun Leo Moon a good combination?

It is a comfortable one. The aim and the need point the same way, which makes for consistency and gives you nothing to balance against.

Do I need my birth time for this?

Not for the Sun. For the Moon, often yes: the Moon changes sign every two and a half days, so anybody born on a day it moved needs a time to be sure.

What lunar phase was I born under?

Leo is the same sign as Leo, which puts you in the new moon band. The exact phase needs degrees rather than signs.

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